BL: WWPGD – What Would Phyllis George Do about…?

    Phyllis George
    BobLee
    April21/ 2018

     

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    BL: WWPGD – What Would Phyllis George Do about…?

    There were two interesting and related articles last week. Internet reader reaction was predictable to a stereotype. Not a flattering stereotype. Stereotypes seldom are flattering.

    I agree with both articles’ premises… not necessarily in how they are rationalized.  The Issue is:

    Are NFL Cheerleaders and Women in Media Objectified.

    Objectify = To degrade a person to the status of  “an object”…”a thing”.

    Article #1 about NFL Cheerleaders as Sideline Eye Candy was in USAToday Sports by Nancy Armour.  Nancy Armour is a hard-core razor-totin’ femi-nazi.  Her POV on any issue is as predictable as Maxine Waters’ weekly screeds.

    LINK To Her Article…

    Raging against the concept of scantily-clad leggy bimbettes in spandex, high-heeled boots, push-up bras and lots of teeth and hair that flies back and forth a lot… is not new.

    NFL Sideline Bunnies have been controversial since Dallas’ Clint Murchison, Tex Schram and Gil Brandt came up with the idea in the mid 60s.

    Legend has it Clint, Tex and Gil were staring at a warehouse full of Bob Lilly / LeRoy Jordan calendars they could not give away. Dukes of Hazzard was on the TV and Gil noticed Daisy Duke… and “the rest is history”.

    NFL Cheerleaders and The Sports Illustrated Swimsuit Issue? Librarians in Iowa have never cared much for either one.

    USO trips to “cheer up the troops” and visits to Childrens’ Hospitals are fine things to do… but…

    NFL Cheerleaders ARE Sideline Eye Candy.   

    The Most Objectified Occupation there’s ever been.

    NFL Cheerleaders

    That six NFL teams do not have Cheerleaders is proof that they are not essential to the business of NFL Pro Football.

    Will America’s ever-evolving moral compass stop spinning long enough to make a decision on NFL Cheerleaders? Not in my lifetime.

    I no longer watch The NFL with or without Cheerleaders. Are NFL Cheerleaders a factor in your decision to go / no go to a game?

    Would you want your daughter / granddaughter to be an NFL Cheerleader?

    If two NFL Cheerleaders in their game uniforms showed up at your front door selling boxes of Cocoanut Macaroons and Thin Mints to help stop genocide in the Horn of Africa, would you buy a box… how many boxes might you buy? Are you concerned about genocide in Africa?

    There is nothing new about Nancy Armour’s rage against America’s addiction to NFL Eye-Candy. Again, she is not plowing new ground… nor is her rant likely to have the slightest effect on the issue.
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    The second article is more intriguing. An ESPN sports media something named Sarah Spain did an hour podcast interviewing other women who are in sports media. I listened to the entire hour of the podcast.  You should too.

    Here… so can you. … LINK

    Sarah Spain Logo

    Sarah talks a lot about her large breasts.  Because they are prominent and get talked about on social media whenever she appears on TV. It was not clear if Sarah has one Sarah Spainserious stalker or a fan club of them… or tens of thousands of Sarah Spain breast fans out there.

    My guess would be a handful of board monkeys get their kicks typing “big boobs” in reader comment forums. And Sarah cannot stop herself from reading their unflattering comments and fixating on them as they do on her chest.

    Sarah and her friends commiserate about their experiences climbing the ladder as women in sports media. No mention was made of “casting couches” or Harvey Weinstein / Bill Clinton / Roger Ailes shenanigans.   None of them mentioned being propositioned “… so how much do you want this job?”

    None of them can figure out why their on-air physical appearance should have anything to do with their ability to discuss Bill Belichek’s Hoodie collection… or what James Harden might look like without the beard.

    Men in Sports TV media are not evaluated on lip gloss, length of skirt or height of heel. There were several mentions of the term “thigh meat” which I had never heard.  Will that cause you to listen to the podcast… you dawg you!

    How much “thigh meat” they reveal purposely or accidentally is apparently an issue. Who knew?

    ESPN’s Race Diva Jemele Hill gets lots of comments about her assortment of Afro-centric hairstyles.

    Kate Fagan is a very proud outspoken Lesbian.  She recounts admonishing her “life partner” to not read social media comments she – Kate – receives because she will learn “there are lots of strange people out there”. Kate Fagan

    Kate sports a short “boy cut” hairstyle.  Someone once thought she was a cross-dressing boy.  ESPN has not had one of those yet.  The now departed John Skipper (UNC’75) no doubt had it on his To Do List.

    I appreciate their concerns about the differences between Men and Women in a visual medium such as TV. Physical appearance has always been an issue for females on TV. Not much of a factor at all in print or radio media.  J-Schools call it The Helen Thomas Effect. YIKES!

    That has as much chance of changing any time soon as doing away with NFL Cheerleaders.

    No one has ever peeped thru a keyhole to watch Colin Cowherd preen nude in front of a mirror… that we know of. Whenever anyone mentions Erin Andrews you think about that, don’t you? Does anyone mention Erin Andrews any more. Not in my orbit.

    The crux of the issue, IMO, is these women don’t understand the Grim Reality of Social Media. If they do understand it, they greatly overestimate their ability to change it one iota.

    Legislating Social Media is like calling for a Constitutional Convention… or leveling a 3-legged stool.   Be very careful what you start tinkering with.  When the smoke clears, the original intent may be unrecognizable.

    There have always been trolls and perverts and “really scary sickos” out there.   Social media has unlocked the cages in society’s basement were we kept them chained up.

    Men have always noticed “what women look like”. They especially notice women who exhibit qualities that emphasize their sexuality. Even more than they care about Bill Belichek’s hoodie collection.

    As I often note here… the #1 category on the Internet is PORN… by a whole lot. Not all those porn-watchers are Ratzo Rizzo derelicts in dirty raincoats. They are doctors, lawyers, butchers, bakers and candlestick makers and Sports Fans of every age… color… income level. They enjoy “boobs… “thigh meat”… NFL Cheerleaders and fantasizing about women they see on TV.   How they manifest their interest covers the spectrum of humankind.

    Which brings us to Phyllis George… the first “pretty woman” to be associated with TV sports media in the late 60s on NFL Today. She was a former Miss America when that meant something. She was, and still is, very attractive in a wholesome Mary Tyler Moore sort of way. 

    Did men tune in to NFL Today in the 60s to ogle Phyllis George?  40+ years ago I don’t recall “boobs” or “thigh meat” being an issue… do you?  Phyllis George was, IMO, very pretty. Much more so than Irv Cross in my opinion.

    How many boxes of Snickerdoodles  would you buy from Phyllis George on your front porch?

    Do you recall ANYTHING Phyllis George ever said on NFL Today? If you do, I bet it was her interview with Roger Staubach.

    “Broadway Joe” Namath was all the rage for his sybaritic hedonistic lifestyle. Phyllis asked Roger what he thought about Joe’s image and life style.

    Roger replied “I enjoy having sex as much as Joe does, I just enjoy it with one woman.” … Phyllis George blushed.

    She was replaced on NFL Today by Jayne Kennedy… a very attractive “woman of color”. FWIW… I don’t recall her ever wearing “dreads” or cornrows. Or insulting The President.

    Times have changed in many ways. In many ways no, they haven’t… and likely won’t.

    Really… Listen to that Sarah Spain podcast. It is an hour of your day, but I am interested in your opinion.

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    • UncBlue Reply
      4 months ago

      Jessica Mendoza seems knowledgeable, nice and attractive.

      • BobLee Reply
        4 months ago

        Incredibly so. She takes a lot of “guff” from grumpy misogynists but I think she does a great job. Her analysis’s are almost too detailed at time… “tells us how to build a watch” … but she obviously does a lot of preparation.

    • Former96Heel Reply
      4 months ago

      I always thought the sideline reporter was better filled with the ex-jock than the eye candy. The only one that I can remember was Tony Siragusa who spent a few years as a sideline guy in the mid-2000’s. It always seemed logical to have someone like Barkley telling Popovich going into halftime, ‘coach, you’re getting killed on weakside rebounding, put in the muscle’, instead of having someone bother Ol’ Roy to get a quick cliche out of him.
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      In their defense, the sideline babe almost always sounds much more knowledgeable than her looks would lead on. I used to wait for one to call out an injured player during the obligatory injury update. “James is out with a pulled muscle, and we all know he is letting his team down now that he has his big contract. If he had half a pair, he would tape it up, and leave it all on the field”

      • BobLee Reply
        4 months ago

        Sideline reporterettes asking Nick Saban about “groin pulls” might have an erotic appeal. No?

    • Mayberry Jim Reply
      4 months ago

      Not a criticism but an observation. According to Wikipedia Dallas Cowboy Cheerleaders originated in 1960 innocently enough with a squad composed of Texas high school boys and girls. The DCC evolved over the years eventually becoming all adult female in 1972, and the costumes and routines became steadily more provocative after that.

      Catherine Bach was revealed as Daisy Duke in 1979. Perhaps she had influence on the DCC thereafter, but it appears the die was already cast.

      “Was revealed” – did you catch that?

      Totally unrelated but speaking of eye candy, if really attractive people are consider “eye candy”, then I would be more like “eye broccoli”.

      • BobLee Reply
        4 months ago

        I confess to ZERO chronological research as regards Daisy Duke and the DCC. It just seemed a natural connection what with the hot pants and all. No clue about all those Lee Roy Jordan calendars either….

    • TheCowdog Reply
      4 months ago

      Oh, heck yes, CNR. Look peeps, my Buffalo Jills girls went extinct in 2013ish.

      Guess the organization went a bit over the top with feminine hygiene protocol, stuff.

      Was there an employee handbook for any of y’all detailing proper hair removal?

      • BobLee Reply
        4 months ago

        Always thought “Buffalo Jills” was one of the most creative Cheer Squad names.

    • NCSU68Grad Reply
      4 months ago

      BobbyLee

      Teams without sideline eye candy probably don’t have IPF. Brady likes to practice in rain to toughen up
      I don’t buy cookies from any Girl Scout that THINKS she is entering or is in puberty. Phyllis or Stormy? Don’t go there. Good column.

      • BobLee Reply
        4 months ago

        Phyllis George peddling Snickerdoddles would be tough for any man to resist…

    • CNR Reply
      4 months ago

      To BL–Yes, The Apache Belles and Rangerettes are still going strong. Every high school in the state from monsters to teenies have their versions.

    • CNR Reply
      4 months ago

      What do the Bears, Packers, Browns, Steelers, Bills, and Giants have in common? Cowdog knows.

      Clint Murcheson, Tex Schramm, Gil Brandt, Tom Landry, Bob Lilly, Rog Staubach, Dee Brock, the Tyler Apache Belles, Kilgore Rangerettes, and Texie Waterman are icons in the pantheon of the Dallas Cowboys.

      Those Texas beauties from Tyler and Kilgor wiith their Music Hall Rockettes routines started it all in the Cotton Bowl in the early sixties Cowboy games.

      Did you get Texie’s autograph? She was known throughout the Metroplex for being the hottest teacher of dance with a long waiting list each year to enter her classes. She was as hot as her hottest DCC.

      Friday Night Lights and Texas High School Football–Families meet at Golden Corral for meal then to the game to watch huge great bands and flags and drill teams and traditional songs and a prayer before the game. Then off to Dairy Queen after the game. Big city down to ranch towns, it is all the same routine. Has been, is, and God willing, so it will be, until the end times.

      Even a fool like Jerry Jones can’t destroy it.

      As usual, week after week of great columns and super commenters.

      • BobLee Reply
        4 months ago

        Wonder if Tyler & Kilgore JCs still have those dance teams? Pictures of DCCs over the year don’t change much. They have stayed true to the original model.

    • RowdyBlueTarHeeler Reply
      4 months ago

      ok, which 6 teams with no sideline hotties?

      • BobLee Reply
        4 months ago

        Bears… Giants… Packers… Steelers… Bills… Browns

    • BC.in.PV Reply
      4 months ago

      BL, My wife just listened to my reading of this column. We agree. Your talent is awesome!! I will listen to that podcast during the week.

      • BobLee Reply
        4 months ago

        THANKS BC… I can’t take all the credit. I’ve started drinking Bulletproof Coffee with some “magic oil” that clears up brain fog. That and “Super Beets”!
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        I want your opinion (and her’s too) on these ladies’ career dilemma.

    • Steve.T.Pensacola Reply
      4 months ago

      Oh Wise I-Legend… Why do girls want to be NFL Cheerleaders? I suspect there have been studies done and reports written on the subject.

      • BobLee Reply
        4 months ago

        And likely a few “Blue ribbon panels” convened. Wonder if Condi Rice has served on any?
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        I’m guessing most of the “why” is “fame”… “celebrity” … “show biz” … “meet a better class of men” … etc. Again a stereotype of the girl from small town Texas – a local Miss Something – headed to Dallas (or whatever NFL city) for fame / fortune. While there is no “fortune” in being an NFL Cheer per se, it might be a good resume enhancement for a “real career” as a Real Estate Diva or a Sales Ninja at Sephora.
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        It’s different from the “why” to become a stripper, escort, hooker. There are significant $$$ there albeit at a much higher risk to self-esteem and “life & limb”.
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        Local “pretty girls” have gone to Hollywood for years seeking to “be discovered” and become a “star”… ending up in “the Valley” doing “adult films”. Not sure if being an NFL Cheer is “a gateway” to more objectified occupations.
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        When NFL Cheers are interviewed they all say the cliches… “I’ve always been a Big Fan of the _____” … “I love dancing” … “I wanna meet Luke Kuechly” … etc. … one of my faves is “I want to be a positive role model for young girls to pursue their dreams.”. That ranks with “My favorite turn-ons are long walks on the beach… popcorn… and that new car smell”.
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        You figure most NFL Cheers were “hotties” in high school so they are sorta used to a certain degree of pervs and geek-freaks. Being a Sideline Bunny in front of 70,000 is just that to the MAX.
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        I’m sure Phyllis George had her “stalkers” and freaky letters in The 60s even without Social Media. Esther Williams probably did too.

    • Doug Reply
      4 months ago

      With a few exceptions that come to mind the networks seem to parade many of its female sideline reporters in the same manner and for the same reasons as Clint, Tex and Gil did.

      • BobLee Reply
        4 months ago

        There are a few exceptions. There are logistical limitations to how “objectifying” they can be holding a microphone and asking “Coach, you are down 36 points here at half. What are you going to tell your team?”
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        I met Gil Brandt back in the mid 80s. He still had most of those Lee Roy Jordan Calendars.

    • FSR.73 Reply
      4 months ago

      When I saw that article in USAToday I knew you would be all over it. Had not seen the sports media women piece. Nice combination of facets of one issue.
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      I am guessing the stereotype reaction to the NFL Cheerleader piece was likely unflattering to Ms Armour and what she should do with her opinions.

      • BobLee Reply
        4 months ago

        Yes. As noted, Nancy Armour’s schtick is the “stereotype” Mega Femi-Nazi approach. She is a Hammer and every societal issue is her personal Nail. I think she has “a fan club” that is ever ready to bash anything she says regardless. It somehow fills a need for everyone involved.
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        That NFL Cheerleaders ARE certainly “objectified” is a given. Whether or not the young ladies object to the objectifying is another question.
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        A dozen years ago I had a friend whose twin daughters were UNCCH cheerleaders. I asked him if it bothered him when the male cheerleaders put their hands on their “rear ends”. He said “yes”.

    • BobLee Reply
      4 months ago


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    • Simon.P.82 Reply
      4 months ago

      Once I realized what today’s subjects were, I set my coffee mug far away from my keyboard. I knew there would be a Zinger Tsunami headed my way. … and there was! This might be a cult classic BL.

      • BobLee Reply
        4 months ago

        I try. With some subjects it’s easy to switch over to Full Automatic and just let’em fly…

    • NCSU68Grad Reply
      4 months ago

      If I repeated my advice for how to spice up NCAA FB with a little more “Porny” NFL theme, you would then accuse me of watching Jimmy Kimmel or whomever. Which I did not. I think that Roger Staubach’s comment is telling….in that he had the smarts to get into the US Naval Academy. Pity that many of the super stars of todays sports (NBA, NFL, MLB, Soccer, etc.) aren’t that well endowed in the internal brain matter. Me thinks that even the Curling Professionals are smarter than some of the jive and hip hop talking “role models”.
      Last night….for the FIRST time this year, I was vegging after watching a Hawaii 50 DVR’ed edition. I switched to Fox to watch the last of the Richmond Monster Energy 400. Noticed that the Monster Energy eye candy is now totally Integrated. First time that I noticed that….maybe have been all along, but the previous Miss Winston’s were fresh off the Plantation and they were the OWNER’s pure bred’s….and NOT some Tom Jefferson “opps”.
      Comment in passing. I THINK that NASCAR is now officially DEAD. Read the article recently about how #48 Jimmie Johnson (cut from the same cloth as Roger Staubach) is looking for a ride as Lowes has “evaluated” the cost/benefit ratio of having a “Ride”. RIP NASCAR, I once knew you well…

      • BobLee Reply
        4 months ago

        “Why NASCAR died?” attracts as much debate as “NFL Cheerleaders” and “The REAL Cause of The Civil War”… and Favorite Bond Girl.
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        So.. who would YOU buy more cookies from – Phyllis George or “Bambi and Candi”?

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