Dragons (and Coaches) Live Forever but....


Feb 28, ’13:   “Dragons live forever but not so little boys”.   Puff’s lament in The Land of Honalee has resurfaced with “Little Jackie Papers” of my generation.   We (Baby) Boomers are into that time-honored tradition - reflecting upon the seminal moments of our life journeys.  I’ve always hung with a “jock” crowd so our reflections usually involve “a coach” either positively or not so positively.  A mythical figure who - like Puff - “lives forever”.

NOTE:  The Lifetime Channel just contacted for the TV movie rights to this one.  You’re getting a sneak peek.

First a token of appreciation and sympathy to the spouses / offspring of former high school and college jocks.  There will be lavish rewards in Heaven for listening ad nauseum to rehash upon rehash upon more rehash of “the big game” and/or lockerroom hi-jinks and/or “that time Coach _____ grabbed so&so and threw him through the plate glass window and ........”.

There are two categories of long-suffering spouses.  (1) The ones who “were there” as cheerleaders / girlfriends in high school or college.... and (2) Those who came into our lives later but have heard the freakin’ stories so often they feel like they were there.   It must be worse for Category Twos.

Blondie is a Cat Two.  Two of my reunions were “it” for her and the second was a real struggle.  She knows I’m addicted to these things so she always lets me go.... packing me a sack lunch with a bologna sandwich and a surprise dessert treat, but I could not drag her to another one with a team of Clydesdales.

I’m pausing here while thousand of you’ans yell “Honey you gotta read BobLee's latest.  He nails how you are to a T.”   What can I say?   It’s a gift.   

So anyway, back to “coaches live forever, but not so little boys”.....  Two recent cases illustrate this soooo well.

Ed Emory passed away a few weeks ago.  “Coach Emory” was an assistant FB coach at my high school.  It was his first coaching gig fresh out of ECC in the early 60s.  He would go on to coach high school / college football for 40 years most notable as HFC at ECU in the 80s.  Ed Emory was a bona-fide larger-than-life “character”, leaving a trail of real and not-so-real anecdotes in his wake.   Anyone who ever crossed his path has an Ed Emory story.  

With Coach Emory’s passing, all those stories percolated to the top of the e-mail subject line marinated for 40 years in Life’s crock pot.  

As I read the various anecdotes Ed took on a Paul Bunyan-esque quality.  I knew him VERY well but; damn, I didn’t know he (1) created the safety blitz.... (2) was George Gipp’s roommate..... (3) first to call Paul Bryant “Bear”..... and (4) on five different occasions did indeed “throw so&so thru a plate glass window”.  All this by a guy who was 24 years old at the time.

A bunch of mid 60 Boomer-jocks many of whom have significant resumes getting teary-eyed remembering “that time that he......” about “a 24 y/o in his first real job.   

We are frozen in our minds as impressionable teenagers in awe of our “coach” whose every action / every word becomes an integral part of who we would become over the next 40-50 years. ..... the words and actions of a 24 y/o coach in his first real job.

Dragons (and Coaches) live forever..... but not so little boys.

Fast forward 4-5 years later “amid the lofty pines” of Kenan Stadium.  A landmark event occurred that sports historians say “forever changed ACC Football”.   

“Gentleman Jim” Hickey was shown the door by UNC.  Vince Dooley’s kid brother – Bill – at 32 years old – was named Head Football at Carolina.   Bill came to Chapel Hill out of “the SEC”.

The SEC in the mid 60s was not quite the SEC we know today mainly because it was just beginning to integrate but Football was already really really really important to Bill Dooley and to the sadists, sociopaths, deranged, and borderline insane gang of assistants he dug up to help him “raise the level of intensity” of the UNC Football program.   

All well and good you say..... unless you had been recruited to UNC by “Gentleman Jim” to play football while you otherwise matriculated as a full-time college student “amid the pines”.

Picture Vince’s little brother Bill as Strother Martin addressing Cool Hand Luke and the cons on the chain gang about “a failure to communicate”.   Standing behind Strother Dooley are a gang of wild-eyed “bulls” slobbering at the mouth to:


“teach ‘dem boys what football is gonna be like aroun 'cher from now on.”  Uh oh.

Seven or eight years ago I chronicled the events of “that Spring of ’67” in an epic known as Carolina’s Junction Boys.   “Junction Boys” came from a similar “cull the herd” episode by Bear Bryant when he arrived at Texas A&M.  “Cull the herd” could be called “make’em or break’em and we’d just as soon break’em”.  

The Dooley Gang intended to aggressively run-off as many of Hickey’s boys as possible thereby freeing up grants-in-aid they could use to recruit “their kind of players”.   

Lives were forever changed during that “Spring of ‘67”.... amid Kenan’s lofty pines. Less than 20% of “Hickey’s Boys” survived the experience to complete four years of eligibility.  That’s about the same % that survived the torpedoing of the USS Indianapolis in WWII.  (note sly “Jaws” reference)

This column is not about the debatable ethics of all that.  This column is about how the Dooley Gang “lives forever” after 40 years with those Carolina Junction Boys circa 2013.   Who are now in their mid 60’s with assorted levels of personal / professional cred.... and still harboring dark memories of “that Spring”.

As with the 24 y/o Emory..... Bill Dooley and his gang of socio-paths were only in their early 30s.   There were two assistants who were "grown men".  Their names are seldom brought up in “that time when.....” accounts.   

A 32 y/o “power figure” looms large to a 19 y/o college sophomore..... very very large.

The Carolina Junction Boys have reunited recently thru email.  Not to over-dramatize it but it has the elements of a Hanoi Hilton reunion or  “our platoon in the Central Highlands during Tet”.  No, no one died in the mat room..... but

Some “football dreams” did die that Spring.  Some scars that never healed.

40 years later these “Little Jackie Papers” include an orthopedic surgeon, retired CEOs, grandfathers, men of means and measure who still deal with not-pleasant memories of “their coaches” from 1967.   

Coaches now in their late 70s-80s, long retired, shuffle thru their own sketchy memories.  Most did eventually outgrow their sociopathic tendencies.  

Dragons (and Coaches) live forever..... but not so little boys.

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Are there equivalent memories for those who were in high school / college drama productions? ..... or student government ..... or the AV club?  Assuming all the AV club kids went on to be compu-nerds and are either Silicon Valley moguls.... or clerk at an Apple Store in a mall somewhere.  

Do 65 y/o former AV clubbers rehash “that time our advisor – Mr Feeney – forgot that his porno slides were in the slide carousel and Miss Cathcart’s Home Ec class borrowed the equipment and .........” ?    

Blondie played Annie Oakley in her high school production of Annie Get Your Gun.... a “few” years ago.   In a recent recounting of her experience she recalled “that horrible bitch of a choir director”....... proving that

Dragons (and Choir Directors) live forever..... but not so little girls.

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SHOUT OUT TO:
Good Friend NORWOOD TEAGUE - AD At Univ Minnesota
Norwood's Gophers beat #1 Indiana Tues Night. -  Attaboy Norwood !!!

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Posted: February 27, 2013 at 6:28 PM by SaidWHATMedia | with 13 comments
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The Cowdog
The only thing that kept me from a Bill Dooley / Walter Rabb combo, and the Lou Holtz / Sam Esposito duo of eventual choice, was a clever magic trick. ( Well, that and Dooley's hedging to barter with Rabb for future Freshman spring services. )

I liked Norm, too. He was friendlier than his sidekick Sam. Who knows ? Maybe it was me. I wasn't exactly BK.
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BL: I recall a couple of FB/BsB combos in the late 60s but very few. Dools HATED "Labs" as in chemistry, not retrievers so not keen on ANY distractions.

We had Tom Buskey who dropped FB went to Rabb as a pitcher and ended up with a 10 year stay in the Bigs. I believe Paul Miller QB/P also doubled-up maybe one year.

Danny Talbot did both too but that was pre-Dooley. DT was probably best at both as anyone.
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3/1/2013 2:25:52 PM

58 Wolf Kennel
Wow, BL. It appears that Fightin' Bob has had some strange dreams to go along with a verbose writing style. But since today is my birthday, I'm cool.
PS: Coach Kellie took some positive steps last night against Virginia. Next week's ACC Tournament may be the decider.
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BL: What? I don't get a Gold Star for knowing about Baron de Graffenreid (sp?) ??

My hometown, BTW, was NOT settled by ether Charles "Amphy" Shackleford.... or Reggie Bull-lock.

Happy B-Day. Exactly one month later coulda been a problem for you I think.
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3/1/2013 11:59:05 AM

FightingBobKennel, Jr.
Hello BobLee last time you said you were looking forward to hearing about my exploits at the Fall of Constantinople. Of course this was a Trick Question of sorts because I was not born then and the City of my birth New Bern where I was born in a stable at Tryon Palace (see great things even then!) did not even exist. So of course I cannot tell you about my role at the Fall of Constantinople even though I am naturally sympathetic to the Muslim cause given I am strong supporter of our Great President Barack Hussein Obama. But I was not at the Fall of Constantinople.
But my ancestor, Sieur Robert Sur La Plage Kennel (Sir Robert Kennel of Kennel’s Beach) WAS there and with your permission I will drag up a log and tell you all about because it is a great story as are most stories connected with us Kennels.
And we Kennels tend to be an accomplished lot but my offer of a Rhodes Scholarship and a Rotary Scholarship and my nearly successful efforts to find the Higgs-Bosun Particle are Small Potatoes compared to Sieur Robert Sur La Plage Kennel, whom for Simplicity’s sake I will refer to as “Fighting Bob” for that indeed was his nickname, “Robert le Scrappeur”!
Fighting Bob was an English Knight and his French name came from his being a Norman family who of course came to England with William the Conqueror but that is another story for another day even though of course we Kennels had a big part in that as we did in the War of the Roses later on. But anyway Fighting Bob was part of a group of Knights who were defending Constantinople against the Muslim Turks.
You must remember that Constantinople in the 15th century was not what it was previously much of it had been burned down by I am sad to say the Crusaders including the Imperial Palace which later was where the Muslims built their Haram and the place where they kept all the boys. But it was still the greatest City in Christendom and everyone know the Muslims would just take over everything and make everyone wear turbans and talk their Allah jib jabber.
Anyway what happened was this. Constantinople had three big walls around it which were called, I think, the Walls of Constantinople. These walls were considered Impregnable and Fighting Bob, my ancestor, was very proud of them as even though he did not build them he improved them by piling Dirt up against the outside of the walls to make them Thicker this was called a “Ravelin de Kennel” and he thought it would be widely imitated.
Sad to say it was not because the Muslims, curse their heathen souls (but not Our Historic President bless Him!) took one look at the Ravelin de Kennel and called for their Camel Corps, which if you believe it was a bunch of Muslims riding on Camels. The Turkish Sultan Mr. Mehmed II (he was the son of Mehmed I or so I believe) pointed to the wall and sayed, “Boys, the white women is on the other side!” And they (the Muslims) was off. Poor Fighting Bob tried to stop them and they shot him with a Cannon and then cut his head clean off with one of them Scimitars they carried which is kind of a curved sword. And that was that. But Fighting Bob was still a hero when you think about it.
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BL: I sense an El (Cid) Kennel version where the deceased FBK inspires his troops even from the grave.

Can you verify that: Baron deGraffenreid - Founder of New Bern (along with FBK of course) gave FBK his first catcher's mitt and nicknamed him "Yogi Kennel"?
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3/1/2013 10:46:21 AM

wolfdon
understand your puzzlement as was I.....if you go on mississipe state coaching site for years inclusive of 61' and 62' you will find that he was not on the staff during those two years and returned in 63' .....it must have been that those were the years he was at GWU. GW dropped football in the early 60's maybe that is a clue. I am still reseaching it and will pass on any further insights I gain.
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BL: Look forward to any update.
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2/28/2013 5:44:40 PM

wolfdon
Just a touch of trivia.....before his SEC tenure, Dooley was headcoach at GWU in early 60's....my wife to be was in the registrar office back then. Can not believe it has been that long ago ......seems only yesterday.
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BL: Can't find any substantiation to your GWU comment ??? He was an Asst at MissSt and at UGa.
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2/28/2013 3:27:32 PM

YogiNC
"Frau currently runs NC State Athletics with a whip, a chair and a castration knife." Hmmmm Bobby, while funny as heck that may be a bit over the top. BUT most of the stuff on the who's dat page was. I went through the culling culture in HIGH SCHOOL! While it was really tough 2 years later we played for the state championship, the next year we won it. Wanna take one wild guess what the primary topic of conversations have been for umpteen reunions?
A close second is the potassium explosion in the chemistry lab and Woodstock (the bird from Charlie Brown, not the monumental event that half the world personally witnessed... my neighbor still tries to get me to believe he was there).
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BL: "Herd cullings" are like "births of grandchildren" - YOURS is the most uniquiest because - its YOURS!

I tried to design Who Dat with a little sumthin' to piss off everybody. That way I get lotsa comments that say - "Funny as hell BL... except when you make fun of MY sacred cows."

Yogi, I shoot all sacred cows first, then I check their brands. Its my trademark.

Oh.... everyone now claiming they were in Kenan for Gio's punt return was also.... AT WOODSTOCK!
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2/28/2013 9:56:05 AM

58 Wolf Kennel
Bl, you have outdone yourself with both this article and your "Who Dats?". I see your point on most everythng here, except I can see it from 10 years earlier than your experiences. Two examples: One is Coach Earle Edwards who saved football at NC State when he "arrove" in 1954 and recruited 1/3 of his new team from North Carolina, 1/3 from Eastern PA, and 1/3 from Western PA. Definitely enough to keep Sunny Jim from re-saving football at Chapel Hill in the later 50's. A second is Coach George Whitfield when we could see him well before coaching days as a skinny American Legion ballplayer for Coach Frank Mock at Kinston. Who knows how players and coaches will turn out?
Now for "Who Dat". You left out the most intriguing character of all:
BLAP! -- That irascible writer who combines amazing insights and witty writing abilities to skewer all things that don't fit his panaramic view of life. Just enough humanity to empathize with his BL friends and just enough eeevil to club his AP opponents. Has perfected the Rush oral technique in written form to always have the last word in all cases. Fortunately he understands friendships don't always have to agree on issues. 50 years of marriage teaches anyone "Dat".
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BL: "Coach Earle Edwards" is your Tigris & Euphrates - The Cradle of Life".... every page of history has a EE footnote. .... or a Jim Hunt footnote. Bwahahaha.

I'll match my "panoramic view" versus yours... close one eye and squint thru the other and beat your myopic perspective by 10 yards in a 20 yard race.

So, how many bricks did it take you to pave The Brickyard?
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2/28/2013 8:11:45 AM

ANOTHER Epilogue - BobLee
A factoid worth adding here.....

The Dooley Gang inherited players recruited from '64-66. Back then freshmen were not eligible for varsity so they played a separate 5-game schedule vs other area frosh squads.

UNC's frosh were known as "Tar Babies". YIKES! That moniker was conveniently dropped about an hour and a half before Charlie Scott stepped on campus in '66. I digress.

Those three recruiting classes were UNDEFEATED playing their counterparts from State, Duke, Wake, UVa indicating UNC did indeed have assembled "talent" equal to or better than its primary rivals. "Talent" which Dooley's Gang purposely ran off because ????

"Because they could" ???
"To make a point" ??
"It didn't fit their 'style of play'" ?? - 'styles of play' were not radically different back then

Not unlike the mysterious "CROATAN" - we'll never know.
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2/28/2013 6:37:56 AM

thailand
Picture Vince’s little brother Bill as Strother Martin addressing Cool Hand Luke and the cons on the chain gang about “a failure to communicate”. Standing behind Strother Dooley are a gang of wild-eyed “bulls” slobbering at the mouth to: (Loved Strother Martin)

Culling is of course a hard part of growing up even for 20-year-olds.....As you often say--"tuff bizzness"......a small group of State football players used to regularly throw water through the Bragaw dorm window of a clumsy forward recruited out of Ohio.....Not sure who gave that hit squad their marching orders but a basketball scholarship was freed up......Players in academic trouble often found themselves alone in their struggles if their game was too struggling.....

Norm used to free up extra tournament tickets by vacating a few bench seats late in the season--I remember the extended Thompson family required more than the normal two (but that was just the cost of doing business)......We all understood that then......A couple of us missed the tournament one season for such a reason but I ended up on a cruise to the Bahamas instead with my fraternity and had a pleasant liaison with a campus lovely on Paradise Island for a few days :-) ......Good things often evolve from the roar of that fearsome dragon......

Norm was still cleaning out his office desk of Press Maravich's Dixie Cups of chewing tobacco spittle after a few years before he finished cleaning house with his basketball team......He was a dragon, a tough task master, a "Stormin' Norm"......

Today I am on Flores Island and getting ready to board a speed boat to Komodo Island to face a real dragon--although sometimes Norm gave a pretty good impression of one..... Actually I really liked Coach Sloan..... :-)

"Lives were forever changed during that “Spring of ‘67”.... amid Kenan’s lofty pines. Less than 20% of “Hickey’s Boys” survived the experience to complete four years of eligibility. That’s about the same % that survived the torpedoing of the USS Indianapolis in WWII. (note sly “Jaws” reference)."...........
Some of my friends have bad memories of their playing experience, but I don't think we ever felt like we were swimming in shark infested waters, yet sometimes when Coach Sloan reared his ugly head you wished you were.......That pretty little coed on Paradise Island Beach during Spring Break though, left a wonderful memory, though....

Later--From Flores
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BL: Every coach has given the "Football is a metaphor of Life" speech and being "culled" is part of both. Heck, even happens on American Idol.

Sounds like Norm "lives forever" with you. Is EVERY coach named Norm automatically "Stormin'"
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2/27/2013 10:23:27 PM

TM a CJB
Great article. Thanks. See you at the Spring Game.
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BL: Thanks TM. The very first CJB Reunion this April.
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2/27/2013 8:04:54 PM

DD a CJB
Everyone will appreciate this…nice work.
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BL: "Everyone" is too many to ever hope for. I'll settle for "a lot will". :-)
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2/27/2013 7:40:16 PM

Elrod
As I sit here reading this article and doing a bit of my own reminiscing, what do you suppose is on TNT? You are! Of course, that means that "Shooter" is playing again. Perhaps you could do your own special kind of reminiscing with your namesake as he tries to keep from getting killed. Enjoy!
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BL: They never shoulda killed his dog. :-(

Stephen Hunter has a new BLS story just out last month... about unraveling a conspiracy re: Kennedy Assassination. Who better to ask than THE BEST SNIPER THERE EVER WAS !!!
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2/27/2013 7:22:31 PM

Epilogue by BobLee
"Culling the herd" was not unique to UNC in '67. It was a wide-spread practice in the 60-70s and still exist albeit NCAA restrictions have banned the use of cattle prods and thumb screws.

From a fan standpoint, it produced "a noticeably better on-field product" within 3 years.... once Coach Dooley's "culture" had taken root.... But the Junction Boys and their families paid a price that gets lost in the media guides and box scores.

"Culling the herd" is also quite common in corporate takeovers. New ownerships / new management means staff turnover.... and not always voluntarily. Not the physical stress of this incident but psychological and financial stresses.

Good ?? Bad ?? ... Is Barbecue "a good thing"? I think so.... but does the pig get a vote ?
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2/27/2013 1:38:19 PM

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