Albert Slams Bubba re: Sylvia / Jan / Roy – Uh Oh!

    Sylvia Hatchell
    BobLee
    July03/ 2015

    Our buddy “Albert” goes after our other buddy “Bubba” about how UNC is mistreating his buddy “Sylvia” – READ MORE

    Oh My! Hang On Sloopy!….  I better grab a fire hose.  This could get “HOT”!

    Anticipating possible adverse reprisal from beady-eyed Franklin Street Lunatics, I have advised Albert to “take precautions”.   He has engaged a former DPD detective (and, ironically, a hard-core “Wuffie”) to “watch his back”…. taste his food…. and start his car for the next several days.   These are very strange times…..  

    http://www.heraldsun.com/news/showcase/x110777804/Lack-of-new-deal-for-UNCs-Hatchell-angers-supporters

    Excerpt from Durham Herald-Sun article of 7/2/15

    ….. The NCAA is expected to punish UNC. The Boxill-Hatchell relationship has the UNC women’s basketball program looking like it could take a serious hit.

    Jan Boxill…. Anyone who’s heard Boxill speak knows what a gifted orator she is, Durham’s Albert Long explained recently between sips of his coffee at Chick-fil-A on Hillsborough Road. He recalled a time when he heard her speak during an event for the UNC women’s basketball team, and Boxill was engaging and charming and certainly convincing.

    Long said that’s how Hatchell got snowed.

    “She was a person who put all her trust in an individual who was her friend and the chairman of the ethics committee and a well-known, respected professor,” Long said.

    Long is no ordinary UNC fan. He played football, basketball, baseball and ran track for the Tar Heels in the early 1950s. He’s the only four-sport letterman in the history of the Atlantic Coast Conference. Long loves UNC women’s basketball and is particularly crazy about Hatchell, his friend.

    “I guarantee you that every one of Sylvia’s peers who know her personally will tell you what a women of high integrity she is and a woman of strong faith,” Long said.

    Yet Cunningham is treating Hatchell like she was in on the irregular classes, like she’s Boxill, Long suggested.

    “What really upsets me is the very same reasons Bubba Cunningham mentioned why he extended Roy’s contract fits Sylvia exactly,” Long said.

    When Cunningham announced Williams’ contract extension, he said, “His results on the court over 27 years as a head coach are among the most accomplished in the history of the sport, but his love for the University of North Carolina and the way he cares for his students are truly unmatched.

    “Roy is a man of character and integrity, and I have great respect for the way he leads our basketball program.”

    Long has issues with that.

    Among active coaches in women’s college basketball, Hatchell has more wins than any of them, including the great Geno Auriemma. Granted, he’s won 10 national championships at the University of Connecticut. But the point is Auriemma arrived at UConn in 1985 and has 917 wins. Hatchell showed up in Chapel Hill in 1986 and has 961 wins, including the national championship she delivered to UNC in 1994. She got 272 of those wins during her 11 years coaching at what used to be Francis Marion College, in Florence, South Carolina. Only retired Tennessee coach Pat Summitt, with 1,098 career victories, has more wins than Hatchell.

    In 2011,when Dick Baddour was UNC’s athletics director, he extended the contracts of both Williams and Hatchell to 2018. The deal Cunningham gave Williams would keep him in Chapel Hill through 2020.

    Yet Hatchell didn’t get a contract extension. UNC women’s lacrosse coach Jenny Levy got one after her Tar Heels were runners-up in the NCAA Tournament. UNC women’s tennis coach Brian Kalbas got one after sophomore Jamie Loeb won the 2015 NCAA championship, UNC’s first NCAA women’s tennis individual title.

    But no new deal for the UNC’s women’s basketball coach.

    “Why would her contract not be renewed, as was Roy Williams’?” Glover asked.

    One of the finest all-around athletes UNC ever produced, Long has problems with how Cunningham is handling Hatchell’s situation.

    “I am a Tar Heel born and a Tar Heel bred, and when I die, I’m a Tar Heel dead,” Long said. “However, I am thoroughly disgusted with the way the athletics department has treated Coach Hatchell, and Bubba Cunningham and I are good friends — that is, until he reads this article.”

    Long smiled when he said that, but the grin masked his frustration regarding the treatment of Hatchell. It’s no way to treat somebody like her who is in the Naismith Memorial Basketball Hall of Fame just like Williams, he said.

    “They are throwing her under the bus,” Long said.

    There is language in Hatchell’s contract — her base salary is $361,000 a year — that could be grounds for her dismissal if sSylvia Hatchell Comeone either on the women’s basketball staff or any of her players violated an NCAA standard about which she should have been aware.

    “She is going down with the ship, and nobody in the athletics department is even throwing her a life jacket,” Long said.

    What already looks awful is Hatchell having lost her entire recruiting class from 2013. That was the top class in the nation.

    The best among those four players is Diamond DeShields, the national freshman of the year in 2013-14 whose mother said the situation at Chapel Hill was a bad fit for her daughter. Hatchell was fighting cancer and took that season off when DeShields led UNC to the NCAA Tournament quarterfinals. Hatchell barely got to work with her. By the time Hatchell’s health improved enough for her to return to coaching, DeShields had transferred. She’s at the University of Tennessee.

    After this past season, Jessica Washington said she was leaving to find more playing time at another school. She’s landed at Kansas. Allisha Gray and Stephanie Mavunga, whose decisions to explore other options were announced in June, haven’t said why they wanted out of Hatchell’s program. Gray transferred to the University of South Carolina.

    “Simply stated, she lost her star players because of something she did not do and had no control over,” Glover said.

    The timing of it all is critical, according to Jacqueline Koss, a friend of Hatchell’s who said she has served as a director of women’s sports on the collegiate level.

    “Granting releases to student-athletes in a situation such as this has a viral effect,” Koss said. “Granting one release based on allegations, substantiated or not, initiates panic that spreads and can decimate the program.”

    Koss, an adjunct faculty member at Vanderbilt University, has shared her concerns in writing with Cunningham. She said he was nice enough to respond and did so in a professional way. But Koss warned Cunningham that his treatment of Hatchell is insulting and could be a violation of Title IX legislation in place to ensure equitable treatment of females in sports.

    “Coach Hatchell took her team to the Sweet 16 this past year, which parallels what Roy Williams accomplished with the men’s program,” Koss said. “The lack of a contract extension to Coach Hatchell is reminiscent of athletic[s] department actions before the passage and enactment of Title IX. UNC might want to rethink these questionable courses of action.

    “Without a contract extension, you are inhibiting and impeding an award-winning coach, and, moreover, you are demanding that a coach put together a successful team under negative circumstances that you have created.”

    Koss said she tended to Hatchell while she fought for her life battling leukemia.

    But now, Glover said, it’s like Cunningham is trying to take the basketball life out of Hatchell

    “Bubba Cunningham and the university (are) making her and women’s basketball the sacrificial lamb for something that has been proven she had absolutely nothing to do with,” Glover said.

    Koss wondered, “How did an investigation that centered upon the men’s basketball and football programs land on the doorstep of women’s basketball?”
    Herald-Sun sports writer John McCann is @johntmccann on Twitter.

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    BobLee
    • Porcophile Reply
      4 years ago

      No, seriously, BL — what do you really think? Don’t hold back.

      Unfortunately, it’s not just the Big Rams who should be ashamed. I used to have some respect for the faculty and students at UNC-CH, but a university with graduates who deny or defend this sorry business, taught by faculty who are able to ignore it, might as well be in the SEC.  “Public ivy,” my a**.

      • BobLee Reply
        4 years ago

        Students just care about getting drunk/high and getting laid. Faculty just care about “tenure”. Fat Cats just care about Braggin’ Rights. Coaches just care about Winning.
        .
        “Accountability” and “Responsibility” ain’t on any of their lists. There ARE, of course, exceptions to the above generalizations but those Exceptions just prove the Rule.

    • BobLee Reply
      4 years ago

      This crap, alas, really does NOT surprise me.   Unlike Albert, I do NOT give Sylvia a pass for “not knowing”.   For $1,000,000/year she should be held accountable for anything involving her program.   “Trusting Jan Boxill” was a very egregious mistake.  Mistakes are SUPPOSED to have consequences.  ….. Neither Sylvia NOR Roy deserve “raises” or any sort of “rewards” for their mistakes.

       

      Whoever REALLY is running UNCCH should be ashamed…. and should come out of the shadows and show themselves.

    • Doug Reply
      4 years ago

      You once commented on something I said here. Something to the effect that the lower level guys have virtually zero investment in any sport other than men’s bb. They pushed football under the bs in hopes those pesky N&O guys and the NCAA would be satisfied and go away. Didn’t work out as planned huh? I suppose they will keep pushing all the other programs under until there’s nothing left rather than the sacred cow. That’s exactly what I’d do I guess if I was in their shoes. Maybe the LLG’s can offer up intramural soccer and rugby in lieu of MBB.

      • BobLee Reply
        4 years ago

        The whole thing STINKS!

    • thailand Reply
      4 years ago

       

      “Grade Mules for smuggling eligibility”….  🙂

      I used to think it was “pretty cool” the notion of students being able to play collegiate sports while taking a full load college course–the reason I watched really……How can they do it? I would ask myself…..I found college to be hard and studying to be time consuming–the notion of practice and games with travel time a great impediment to academic success…..

      Clyde Chesney was the first black football player I saw play for State…..I was excited –Cyde was a defensive end who I was sure would shore up the Wolfpack defense–I just felt his being black playing for State back then meant he was really good….Clyde was good as a player and a good student…..I had a weird feeling as I recall…..I was proud…..Today, with the semi literates not so much…..Alas 🙁  (Clyde passed away not so long ago)….

      The boys in the Dean Dome lower tier are likely running the show over there…..As they always do/did…..But the elephant in the room still negates positive traction……

      Roy seems well, very Roy………..Lenny Bruce used to say if your wife walked in on you with another woman, deny, deny, deny……Denying he knew anything to be working for Roy…..Be something, though if he came out and “manned” up……  Letting the Sylvia take the hit alone seems to fall short of chivalry…..

      Quirky is good….real good….

      From Pattaya

      • BobLee Reply
        4 years ago

        Not much has surprised me since Marvin tweeted. But THIS… Rewarding Roy while leaving Sylvia to twist in the wind is pretty “yucky”. I hope we eventually learn the names of the “whatever it takes” Fat Cats behind this. IMO, this is worse than the BOT3 buying Butch. Woodrow Call wouldn’t think much of Roy… and neither do I.

    • TheCowdog Reply
      4 years ago

      Do you recall my saying that there is something “bigger” in all this? Why would the Wall Street Journal make a Public Info request for:

      “… copies of any and all communications between UNC officials (including officials in the Office of the President or the Athletic Department) regarding tickets to football or basketball events for members of Congress or their legislative aides from Jan. 1, 2012 to the present.”

      Curious at any rate.

      • BobLee Reply
        4 years ago

        Before dropping the hammer…. are such requests also common at sister and neighboring institutions? I don’t know but would expect they would be. “Honorables” tend to react well to “freebies”. Having “Honorables” feeling charitable towards one’s institutions is always a good thing…. regardless of on-going Unpleasantries.

    • BB Reply
      4 years ago

      I may not be a fan of women’s BB, but this is unacceptable.  I do believe she is the scapegoat in this, and these idiots that are in place to make these decisions aren’t even from our state.  This is what happens when you bring in people from areas that have no ties to the university at all.  You see what happened with the football team.

      • BobLee Reply
        4 years ago

        WHOA BB…. you realize you are wishing for “a Dickie Baddour” from nearby Goldsboro. “Twas little Dickie that spent 16 years guzzling TWC Kool-Aid while Jan, Deborah and Burgess schemed their little scheme. The “deep pocketed Lower Level Gang” are ALL pretty much Home Grown too. Little Carol (From Dartmouth) is, IMO, a non-factor in any decision of consequence. The BOT3 that crammed The Butcher down our throat are all “local boys” too.

    • 58wolf kennel Reply
      4 years ago

      What does the good Dr. Reed have to say about a healing solution?

      I really do have a great empathy for some of the “good people” caught up in all this. That Durham newspaper article today should show this goes beyond Dan Kane.

      • BobLee Reply
        4 years ago

        JSR is summering across the pond in PippaLand. But he is always monitoring our little website. 🙂

    • NCSU68Grad Reply
      4 years ago

      Will try to be more concise and not write in code as some may have attended the fake classes in Reading Comprehension 101.  Will also quit using abbreviations that are really self explanatory to most who read your columns….but confuse others…

      Read this earlier today via CPH (Carolina Plott Hound).  TH-S (The Herald-Sun) article has a bunch of interesting comments.  Most as expected.

      Slow news day.  AC (Andrew Carter) is espousing about why ORW and LF (Please….you DO know them….doncha?) might regret telling recruits that FB and MBB (Mens Basket Ball) programs are SAFE from sanctions of epic proportions and how THAT could haunt them.  Really got the “SUPER Status  commentors wound up tighter than ORW’s Rolex.  Name calling and Intelligence Questioning amongst them all.

      TGU is filling the void while Obummer and Michelle go on vacations and there is no new Republican Candidates announcing their intentions…and Donald can’t get a microphone.

      Will wait for the “Draft Joey Biden” movement…..then we WILL know that the entire USofA is intellectually challenged.

      I had already noted Glover’s line about Bubba no longer taking his phone calls.

      Perhaps there will be a vigil (complete with the perfunctory Light Blue Candles) for Sylvia and the ACLU, NOW, LGTWhatever, and the Rev Bully Barber (AKA BB….but NOT Basket Ball) will show up in support of her.  Probably a LOT of other “associations” that will chime in….

      As it is, Sylvia may well indeed be convicted by the Kangaroo Court and forced to wear a Scarlet (as in RED) C for Cheater.  Hope the bus tires don’t mess it up…

      Sylvia has a plethora of defenses (other than her undying love and perhaps not so smart intuition about Jan’s morals).  The Title IX lady from Vandy was very subtle.  I think that Sylvia’s Illness also makes her eligible to use the ADA (Americans with Disability Act) route.

      Bubba and Ms. Folt might have done dug themselves a bigger hole.

      Wonder if Dale Earnhardt, Jr. has an opinion on this?  Sylvia’s lynching (Loretta….where forth are thou?) is being handled in a manner that upsets ME more than the Mandatory Removal of the Stars and Bars.  However, UNLESS it is a Stars and Bars Bikini being worn by Kate Upton.  I’ll protest and carry banners all day long for THAT removal of the supposed Sacred Flag of Dixie.

      Leaving you with one thought….for your Fourth of July holiday.  You probably, like I have, have been receiving the cutesy little emails with a buxom blonde in a S&B’s Bikini and the title…”You mean it is illegal to wear this and I’m going to have to take it off….?”.  I am waiting for your PhotoShop buddy to do JB (Jan Boxill) in one….but it needs to be on the body of a granny befitting JB’s “looks”.

      I guess that Forest is right…..Ugly is as Ugly Does….Good night, Jenny….

      • BobLee Reply
        4 years ago

        Today’s dose of lighter fluid might indeed ignite more than a bit of controversy. We do love us some controversy.

    • BB Reply
      4 years ago

      Read this and am sorry to hear of it, albeit, I had a feeling it was going to happen with the emphasis put on the women’s team.  What a mess.  If you’re going to skewer one, then skewer the other.

      • BobLee Reply
        4 years ago

        In a Universe of Equals, some will always be “more equal” than others. Thats Reality. I have NOT spoken w/ Bubba but this silly scenario has Lower Level Gang DNA all over it. That bunch will quickly throw Sylvia under the bus to protect “Their” Men’s BkBall. It’s not so much protecting Roy as it is “the hallowed program”….. Those Holy Rafters. 🙂

    • 58wolf kennel Reply
      4 years ago

      I can fully understand how Albert would be conflicted over TGU. As you may remember from my Valvano book, I was conflicted as well, but in digging in to the relative roles of Jimmy V and Chancellor Poulton, my anger shifted to the Golenbok, N&O, and BOG. However we did learn something in the process and put in rules suggested by AD Valvano and permanently moved the Academic support program under the Provost away from the Athletic Department. That was 25 years ago, and we have suffered some athletically, but the program is almost “Caeser’s Wife” clean. There will always be a rogue person at some point, but not a rogue “Carolina Way”. Albert has my full empathy. Maybe he is the voice of reason and the possible “TGU Saviour “

      • BobLee Reply
        4 years ago

        There is a bit of “BK The Warrior Alum” in Albert. But he lacks the mainstream Gravitas that “the Saviour” role calls for. The points Albert brings up re: how Roy is being “rewarded” for his “cleverness” and Sylvia apparently “sacrificed” for hers might resonate among a few “deep pockets”. There has been speculation for some time that the UNC admins might start cannibalizing one another at some point. Could this begin THAT ???

    • uncleron Reply
      4 years ago

      Really intricate political correctness maneuvering going on over there.  Of course anyone that thinks that a 20 year pattern of academic doctoring in the economics department could have gone undetected doesn’t get the real issue anyway.
      .
      Ideally, one would think that the politically correct hierarchy would be Women’s coach protection > Men’s coach protection.  Both protected the same “politically disenfranchised” student athletes of course, but that preference gets tossed aside when the dollars get inconvenient.
      .
      That Boxill et al were the bagladies is helpful in distancing the “athletics” from the “academics”.  Using the head of faculty to launder grades is like  using old ladies to smuggle drugs.  Meanwhile, the sport centric among the alumni are breathing a sign of relief that “this was contained to the academic side.” … “Other than that Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?”
      .
      Of course Sylvia is going to be the scapegoat.  Hark the Sound y’all.

      • BobLee Reply
        4 years ago

        Indeed, the many many layers of “affirmative diversities” are piling up over this. Leaving the poor Christian woman to fend for herself, while rewarding the man for essentially the same situation is a for-real head scratcher. If my premise is correct – that this is all being puppeteered (?) by Big Ram $$$$ – then the poor Christian woman is doomed.
        .
        I love your concept of using “grade mules” to smuggle eligibility.
        .
        “Tangled webs” aplenty being weaved for sure. Stay tuned.

    • 58wolf kennel Reply
      4 years ago

      Hard to know which of your many good columns one is responding to :+))

      It would be interesting to hear the good Albert’s response to the whole TGU situation. My simple comment from one from Albert’s era is “YIKES” !!!!!

      • BobLee Reply
        4 years ago

        I would think you would be a Pippa fan, BK. 🙂
        .
        …. Albert is “conflicted” over TGU. He has consumed A LOT of TCW Kool-Aid over the past 60 years. “Seeing the harsh light of Reality” has not been easy for him at all. As his comments indicate, his loyalty to his friend Sylvia is unwavering regardless.
        .
        Somehow I manage to attract a LOT of buddies with STRONG OPINIONS who don’t mind expressing them. 🙂

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