A New Dan Kane “Q and A” on TGU…

    Dan Kane UNC
    BobLee
    April01/ 2016

    Dan KaneMy favorite N&O Investigative Reporter – “That Damn” Dan Kane – has provided a handy dandy reminder primer of TGU.   Dan (and I) realizes everyone following all this has their very own set of so-called “facts” (distorted, exaggerated, or otherwise) suiting whatever POV they prefer to promote.  But in the oft-chance one wants “Truth” here it is….

    NOTE: I would normally provide a LINK to Dan’s article, but I simply refuse to give Dan’s very very horrible employers (McClatchy… N&O) any “clicks”.

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    Questions and answers on the UNC scandal
    Now that UNC is in the Final Four, the academic/athletic scandal that has dogged the university for five years is popping up in the news. Some questions and answers:

    Q: Weren’t these legitimate, but easy classes?
    A: No. Deborah Crowder, the former administrative manager in the African and Afro-American Studies department, was not a professor. She didn’t have a master’s degree, let alone a Ph.D. She created and graded the classes on her own, though at some point in the scheme department chairman Julius Nyang’oro became aware of them.

    Q: Didn’t Crowder begin offering the fake classes to help all students?
    A: This claim is pegged to a finding in the Wainstein Report that “Crowder and Nyang’oro were primarily motivated to offer these classes by a desire to help struggling students and student-athletes.”

    But the report also says that Crowder began the fake classes in 1993 after counselors in the Academic Support Program for Student-Athletes complained about athletes having to meet with Nyang’oro regularly and provide updates on their work as part of an independent study. These requirements are typical for an independent study.

    Q: Crowder provided them “paper classes” that gave athletes a high grade, and more time to spend on their sport. Didn’t athletes make up slightly less than half of the enrollments in the classes?
    A: Yes. But those enrollment numbers reinforce the prominent role that athletes played in the scandal. First, athletes make up less than 5 percent of the student body, but they made up roughly half of the students in the classes, with football and men’s basketball players the heaviest users. More than 1,500 athletes took at least one fake class.

    Second, athletes accounted for half of the 30 students who enrolled in four or more of those fake classes that were identified as independent studies. Of the 154 students who took five or more fake classes that were falsely labeled as lecture classes, more than two-thirds were athletes.

    Q: Men’s basketball coach Roy Williams says there are no NCAA allegations involving men’s basketball. Is that true?
    A: No. The NCAA’s case against UNC alleges men’s basketball players received impermissible benefits by receiving special access to the fake classes, largely through the efforts of academic counselors in the athlete support program. Men’s basketball is among the three programs that primarily benefited from the special access. The exhibits along with the notice cite examples of that access, including men’s basketball counselor Wayne Walden working with Crowder to put athletes in the classes. Williams brought Walden to UNC from Kansas.

    The notice does not accuse Williams or the coaches of wrongdoing, but the fake classes aided his players, particularly those on the 2005 championship team.

    Q: What did Williams know about the fake classes?
    A: Williams became the men’s basketball coach in 2003, long after the fake classes started. He also inherited a tutoring program that had been operating outside of the Academic Support Program for Student-Athletes. It was led by Burgess McSwain, a close friend of Crowder. Williams told Wainstein that McSwain was too close to his players. Williams brought in Walden, his counselor from the University of Kansas, and the tutoring program went under the supervision of the academic support program.

    By 2006, Williams realized a lot of his players were majoring in AFAM, and some were taking multiple independent studies. He knew Rashad McCants, a shooting guard who was key to the team’s 2005 national championship, had taken “three or four independent studies” in one semester. McCants’ transcript shows that semester was during the team’s championship run. Williams told an assistant coach, Joe Holladay, to make sure his players weren’t being steered into pursuing AFAM majors. Williams also told Holladay to steer them to classes that met. As a result, by 2007, the team was no longer in AFAM’s independent studies, though some continued to take the fake classes that were disguised as lecture classes. That stopped in 2009, when Crowder retired.

    Q: Did any of the current players take fake classes?
    A: No. All of the current members arrived no earlier than the 2012-13 academic year. By then, the fake classes had been exposed and shut down. Records show basketball players last enrolled in fake classes in the summer of 2009, just before Crowder retired.

    Q: Why hasn’t the NCAA ruled in this case?
    A: The NCAA had sent its notice of allegations to UNC nearly 11 months ago. At that point, UNC had 90 days to respond. But shortly before that deadline, UNC told the NCAA new potential violations had been found. That stopped the clock until the NCAA responds to the new allegations.

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    • Doug Reply
      4 years ago

      How does it help UNC to drag this out? Top recruits are going everywhere but UNC. Ingram, Smith, Giles etc.

      • BobLee Reply
        4 years ago

        #1: “losing recruits” does NOT seem to be hurting UNC. Would UNC be “better” this year with Ingram ??? …. I don’t necessarily fault/blame UNC for dragging this out. The NCAA investigation process is seriously flawed. Has been for a long time.

        • Doug Reply
          4 years ago

          Yes I think they would be better this year with Ingram and next year its without question they would be better with Smith or Giles, with all they are losing this year. Roy has said he can’t even get recruits to come on campus to visit much less commit. So I don’t agree with this line of thought. It Roy really believes what he is telling everyone, that MBB will not be punished, then it does no good for them to drag this out? Does it? Why not end it so recruiting can recover? The only reason to drag it out is if they feel they will be punished.

          • BobLee Reply
            4 years ago

            You obviously “care” a WHOLE LOT more about “recruiting” than I do… which is not-at-all. Roy listens to voices in his head. That Roy has a clue “whats going to happen” re: the NCAA Hammer is ridiculous. I seriously doubt that Roy is “in charge” of UNC’s actions/reactions as regards TGU. Lordy, I hope not!
            .
            Is UNC purposely prolonging the “investigation” is just ONE of 100s of conspiracy theories floating “out there”. Pick whichever dozen you wish to believe.

          • Doug Reply
            4 years ago

            Paying little attention to what Roy says is a good policy. Some also might be giving both ORW and 17 year old gym rats much more credit than either deserves. The, I’m just a country bumpkin trying to do my job, shtick seems to working out just fine for him or at least better than he’s letting on.

            • BobLee
              4 years ago

              I see Roy as “Chauncey Gardener” the classic Peter Sellers character… a simple-minded “gardner” that people thought was a genius-savant but he was just “a simple-minded gardner”.

            • Doug
              4 years ago

              “I like to watch.”

            • BobLee
              4 years ago

              Don’t we all.

    • Doug Reply
      4 years ago

      “The NCAA had sent its notice of allegations to UNC nearly 11 months ago. At that point, UNC had 90 days to respond. But shortly before that deadline, UNC told the NCAA new potential violations had been found. That stopped the clock until the NCAA responds to the new allegations.”

      The anarchist in me makes me wonder what will prevent UNC from spoon feeding the NCAA other potential violations one by one in order to keep kicking the can further down the road. I dangerously assume the NCAA might eventually smell a rat sometime in the early 2100’s.

      • BobLee Reply
        4 years ago

        I bet most TGU-watchers have not figured that out YET. NCAA Emmertt’s remarks yesterday referred to a NEW NOA based on those two minor-minor-minor self-reported “uncrossed-ts”. Yes, the six months cycle starts all over again. The “fat lady” is nowhere near singing !

    • wolflove Reply
      4 years ago

      Let’s also not forget that a number of the non student athletes that are listed were former student athletes. Guess that does not count even if gaining that degree or getting a higher overall grade point average after no longer being an athlete counts towards NCAA requirements. Plus the email discovered stating the fact that the frats had discovered the fake classes and how to handle that happening. Shows it was supposed to be a secret and only for the athletes. Oops, I meant student athletes

      • Porcophile Reply
        4 years ago

        And athletes’ girlfriends, and athletes’ fraternity brothers. . . .

    • WildatHeart Reply
      4 years ago

      So tell me why no one calls Ole Roy out every time he says how proud he is that basketball was not named in the allegations? I bet I have heard or read where he said that this week three or four times. You have to think the people asking the questions know the truth.

      • BobLee Reply
        4 years ago

        Roy is Roy is Roy is Roy …. ???? Why would a reporterette from ESPN Desportes “know the truth”?

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